The Compound

(This is my memories of a visit in the late 60’s to a Turkish Women’s Prison/Brothel while I was stationed in Izmir, Turkey and may not be suitable for all viewers. I have no independent corroboration for The Compound, other than what I saw with my own eyes, and the stories told to me by other GI’s.)


One of the places that we were practically REQUIRED to visit in Izmir, Turkey was a place called “The Compound.” It was a place to visit on a Friday evening, and in a group. That’s how we did it, a couple of the older guys that had been stationed in Turkey for a while, and about three of us late arrivals.

Izmir was a typical Turkish city, I suppose, with main streets pretty well lit, and the farther away from them on side streets, much darker.

The Compound was pretty dark. The entry was a gate between two buildings, with a couple of guards manning the entry. Mostly they chased off kids, and turned back any women that might have wandered up. But mostly kids, who are pretty much kids, no matter where they are in the world.

Our group was pretty obviously all men, and we didn’t even get much of a cursory glance as we passed through the entryway.

The gate opened onto a one block street, walled over at the other end. There were a couple of low powered dim street lights casting a murky glow over the street. The three story apartments lining both sides of the street had light shining from all the curtainless windows, as well as through the open entry doors, so even though it was murky and dim, you could still see. Sort of like a carnival at night.

There were no automobiles parked along the street, but there were a couple of street vendors selling cashews and kebab. But that wasn’t why all these men were here, crowding the street. All the men were here because of what else was in all these rooms looking out on the street.

The windows had women looking out, and quite often, calling down to the throng. I’m pretty sure that I saw some boobies! Unfortunately/fortunately, I was a young, still idealistic kid, and these woman were “not beautiful.” Perhaps one or two out of the whole throng MAY have been noticable, but that’s about it. No Turkish Delights here!.

But, what could I expect? This was a Turkish Women’s Prison/State Run Brothel. According to the old timers accompanying us, this was a program for some of the women prisoners to “work off” some time on their sentence! I actually saw an old fashioned shiny brass cash register right inside one of the entry halls!

I know that prostitution was illegal in Turkey, so I easily believed that the state might want to work out a deal with these prisoners. The way this was all set up, I really have to believe that participation in this “business” was voluntary, and probably made up of mostly arrested prostitutes.

Of course, there were many stories about the place, and more than likely, a couple of urban legends. I won’t go into them, some could be quite unsettling. However, according to “facts,” a prison doctor inspected the girls twice weekly.

I didn’t know what this all meant, but I did know that, as far as Moslem countries go, Turkey, thanks to the machinations of the heroic Attaturk, was a very liberal and secular country. Attaturk, the former leader of Turkey, had practically single-handedly dragged Turkey out of its 17th century third world situation, and made it into a functioning member of Europe.

So, Turkey had bars for tourists and non-practicing Moslems, and prostitutes, just like other modern European Countries.

For what it’s worth, myself and my companions strolled up and down the street of the Compound, and marveled at the sights that we saw. After we had seen everything worth seeing, we left (without partaking, thank you very much) and returned to our local Air Force NCO club to talk about what we had seen.

We knew that we were not in Kansas anymore, Toto!

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  • Les  On March 8, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    I too, visited the “compound” (but did not partake of the
    Turkish Delights). I was based in Izmir in 1970-71 as a Sgt
    in the Air Force. I’m looking for pictures of the former
    Izmir NCO Club and base theater next door and the AAFEES
    newstand down the street. All were located downtown on Sair Esref Bulvari. If you or any other person on this site has
    pictures I would appreciate you contacting me at bklyn45H@gmail.com. Thanks.

    • macbuddha01  On March 8, 2011 at 9:13 pm

      About all I have are a couple of newspaper clippings of the NCO club in a story about the strike. I am currently without a scanner though.

  • Les  On March 12, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    If the stories include pictures of the club, please send to
    me whenever you are able to. Thanks.

    Les Le Gear

  • bob  On August 10, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    I visited the curahani (sp) compound in Ankara a number of times. My understanding is that a turkish woman guilty of a
    crime could do straight time in prison or half-time in the compound. After enough drink a few of the girls were passable. I felt bad since they had to have sex with dozens of men all day long. A real horror story I read about was that an American wife of a Major was thrown into the compound in Adana. I’m not sure a believe that she stayed there long, but it was not hard to get into to trouble in Turkey, a strict Muslim country with a bias against foreigners. I liked Turkey, learned the language and “Practiced” in the compound.

    • Anonymous  On July 21, 2014 at 4:53 am

      I am sorry but this should be a urban legend among you yankees. Almost all women prisoners would choose to die than go and work compounds. If they accept to work there, their families do not accept them when their term is ended. Prostituon is seen as lowest job. Alas, prostituon is legal and under strict control of Government (for health issues) and only in “compounds”. Girls do their job, it is their job and they have special permit from State. The houses belong private “mama”s.

      • macbuddha01  On July 21, 2014 at 8:34 am

        Unfortunately, “us yankees” have been talking about actual visits to “the compound.” I was REALLY there, and others were really there. These are not stories about “my cousin’s friend’s hairdresser” visiting the compound. As far as the mechanics of how it was allowed to work, sure perhaps, but work it did. Sorry you find facts offensive, but it is a real world out there.

        • Air Force kid  On November 21, 2018 at 4:58 pm

          The story of the Major’s wife we heard about Karamursel as well. We heard that by the time the State Department found her she was pretty much comatose state, i.e. lights on, nobody home.

      • Anonymous  On December 22, 2015 at 11:31 am

        IT Wasn’t an urban legend.In Bursa for the Airmen stationed at KCDI 73-74 Det 94

        • macbuddha01  On December 22, 2015 at 2:21 pm

          Of COURSE it wasn’t an Urban Legend. It was/is a real place, aqnd not just Izmir, I understand.

        • denjrthebest  On December 22, 2015 at 2:38 pm

          Maybe things have changed, but I never saw an unhappy girl in the compound,,

  • macbuddha01  On August 10, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    I heard that the American wife was a ministers wife,and the minister spent all his time with her so that she never had to do anything. Truthfully, it sounds to me (cynical guy that I am) like it was a local urban legend among the local GIs. Especially since it was, as I understood, voluntary. I also enjoyed my time in Turkey, way back in the day. It was pretty secular at the time, with bars serving alcohol and everything.

    • Air Force kid  On November 21, 2018 at 5:18 pm

      I’ve seen posts on cost. When I was there it was 15 Lira to the dollar. Sometime I’d get laid for 10 Lira, but the best ones were 15.

    • Air Force kid  On November 21, 2018 at 5:27 pm

      Don’t know how to edit previous comments, darn it.
      Anyway as to the Majors wife. Word was her and 3 other officer wives went to Istanbul Basar. She got caught shop lifting. Disappeared for about 3 days before the State Dept folks found her. Story got around big time! We never heard of anyone trying to shop lift after that.
      BTW, we had a navy guy who turned out was the base pusher got caught by the Turks in Karamursel City. We heard he got 10 years, which was pretty much life in prison!
      I really enjoyed my tour at KCDI. Did a lot of stupid things as an Airman that I told my “kids” when I made SSgt that if they think about it, I’ve already done it. But now, the situation is a lot different now, so don’t!

  • R. G. Simmons  On August 29, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Yeah, I visited the compound back in 1999. Most women were not attractive at all but there were a couple that looked pretty good. The only problem was that there were about 50 guys standing their staring at them.

    I wondered why they just stood there. Were they horny but broke or something?

    • macbuddha01  On August 29, 2011 at 10:22 am

      The were “window shopping,” I assume. Myself and my friends were there just to look, and I assume most of the rest of the crowd was there for the same reason. Pretty inexpensive entertainment. I agree with your assessment. They certainly were not up to Playboy Channel standards. Of course, they WERE prisoners.

  • Anonymous  On November 17, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    ….Was stationed in USAF in Karamursel end of 66/67/68 left in April of 68…visited Compound couple times in Bursa….the article above is just as it was!!!..”.I can even smell it as I read it”…I’m glad to read this piece, and have as evidence…I have told many people about the compound in Turkey and most did NOT believe!!!!!…I am sorry to say that “I did participate”
    and always felt guilty as I thought back about it…but now that I am old and ugly and poor….”I wish ta hell I had one next door to visit!!!!”

    • Max  On December 16, 2011 at 11:12 am

      Also was stationed at Karamursell from 64/66 and 73/74 time frame. The
      compoune was a “Must” for all Yennie that arrived. What wasn’t well knows
      was the Turkish government gave the base “Passes” to military membrs.
      But at that time the base chaplin confiscated them or so the story went at the
      time. It was quite intersting to get off a Mid shift and jump in a taxi to go up
      there and see it. Many young Airmen, Navy and Army men went up there on
      break to indulge. Differeng times and situations for us away from home for
      many for the first time. Plus many of us were going to Viet Nam when we
      left there or had come from the Phillpines. But also up there were some geat
      ski resort in the mountains and some pretty good markets to buy trinkets for
      the folks back home. I have to admit that I had a great time on both visits to
      Karamurselle and have looked at it on the Google Earth maps with fond
      memories.

    • Patrick Harris  On March 13, 2013 at 6:10 pm

      Hey I was also at Karamursell in 66/67/68 and was in Det 64. I played flag football with my brother there. (Harris brothers) Also went to the compound in Bursa and Blondie was pretty popular there.

      • Joe Jones  On April 15, 2017 at 8:55 am

        I was at Karamursel at that same 66/67/68 time frame. I even spent the night in the compound. Man, what a scary experience.

    • Air Force kid  On November 21, 2018 at 5:03 pm

      I was at KCDI Dec 71 to Jun 73. Went to the Bursa compound many times. Young and dumb airman with a buddy of mine who was known as the Bursa Bomber. He knew which girls to go to. I agree, no woman that was “beautiful” as in our standards but they did what we wanted them to and satisfied a young airman’s “needs” at the time.

      • Air Force kid  On November 21, 2018 at 5:07 pm

        I’ve seen posts on cost. When I was there it was 15 Lira to the dollar. Sometime I’d get laid for 10 Lira, but the best ones were 15.

  • Anonymous  On November 21, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Under the current Islamic centric political party ruling
    Turkey, I doubt if the compounds are still around. This
    is not the same Turkey that I enjoyed back in the day.

  • Les  On February 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    The great Ataturk must be spinning in his grave knowing who’s ruling Turkey.

  • Anonymous  On March 9, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Well believe it or not the compound still exist i just visit one on my last tour in the Med aboard a Naval Ship in Ismir and Marimas i did indulge and it was fun i partook in the 80’s,90’s and 2003 so for those who think they dont exist ask any cad driver he will take you to one for the right price.

  • Anonymous  On March 9, 2012 at 8:48 am

    It still exist

    • macbuddha01  On March 9, 2012 at 8:57 am

      Well, it seems that the Compound is doing better than Santa Clause!

  • Anonymous  On March 25, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    What’s the charge?

    • R Beck  On August 24, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      In Adana from 65-67 it cost $2 and $1 for oral

  • Anonymous  On April 25, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    in 1989 it was eight dollars

    • nedfuller@comcast.net  On December 31, 2014 at 11:34 am

      Inflation! In 1971-72 it was 12 TL (which at the time was one US dollar) per throw.

      I was at Sinop, US Army Security Agency. In those days, Sinop was barely more than a village on the wild coast of the Black Sea. Remote as hell, and we Sinopians rarely got to any big cities such as The ‘Bul, Adana, Izmir, etc. From Sinop, the nearest Karahani was in Samsun, 188 kilometers to the east. That journey, over a rutted and mostly horrible coastal road, required four hours in the back of a courier “deuce and a half” that made daily round trips. You’d ride down in the morning, feeling pretty festive, and return that night dead drunk.

      The highlight – indeed the entire purpose of the outing – was always a few hours at the “K”.

      The physical description in the post above is pretty accurate, apart from the guard at the entrance who quickly patted us down for weapons. I never knew for sure, but since prostitution was illegal in Turkey, I figured the girls “working” there were primarily busted hookers, serving their time as best they could.

      It was life in the raw, crude and rough. But as bad as it sounds (and was), to the horny and boisterous young GIs such as your humble servant was in them days, this was a welcome relief from life on “the rock” at Sinop.

      Yes, there were row-houses along both sides of the street, and by an either formal or informal arrangement, the girls in the houses were divided up by either ethnicity, region, age, personality, or what-have-you. There was no theft or violence, and although we were already pretty loaded when we got there, no booze allowed. All in all, things were pretty clean.

      The Turkish men would lurk outside the doorways, stroking their pencil-thin mustaches and furtively eyeing the girls inside as if arranging some surreptitious romantic liaison, while we Americans were out for fun, and made no secret of it.

      I remember that the girls in the first house on the left (led by a bawdy gal named “Goula”) were particularly adept at breaking in the Yenis (“new guys”), and talking them out of extra money. There was also the “Gypsy house,” a “crazy house,” and “header house,” no explanations needed. Worst of all was the “beast house,” and once you’d seen it you fled and never went back. Enough said.

      Apart from the normal recreational activities up and down the street, you could also take the girls out on a day-long pass, to go shopping or to the movies, and we frequently did. I remember one time a group of us took several girls out a movie – where the sound was terrible and you sat on benches – to see Disney’s animated “Cinderella.” There was one girl named “Yildiz” (which means “star” in English), who was actually a quiet and sweet girl, and during the movie I looked over and saw that she had started to cry.

      It was a touching moment – a moment of humanity in that rough and tumble world – and it humbled me. To this day I have never forgotten it.

      • Doug Morris  On March 7, 2016 at 6:09 pm

        VIRGIN IN THE COMPOUND

        I arrived in Samsun in April of 1968, barely nineteen and as inexperienced as anybody could be in the ways of love. I had always liked girls but never had a girlfriend, let alone an “experience” with one. So I made my mind up to ride the shuttle into town on my first break and meet some women. I had almost two weeks to learn Turkish so I was set, “Mir habe, nas iz zinnis?” “Cok iyi!”

        I wandered around most of the day and all I saw were old women, or young women fast becoming old women. Shrouded under their kerchiefs and shawls, carrying buckets and bundles of firewood like beasts of burden, girls in that part of the world age fast.

        Late that afternoon I found my way back to the city square to wait for the 5:00 PM bus when three attractive teenage girls came shyly up to me and said, “Pleeze, wat-tyme-eez-eet?” I told them it was almost 5:00. They asked again. Again I said five o’clock. When they asked again, I understood that they didn’t speak English anymore than I spoke Turkish but were simply flirting with me.

        I was okay with that, a walking hormone of nineteen, but after a few minutes of mispronouncements and laughing at our mutual lack of language skills, I began to notice a crowd of older, scowling Turks gathering around us. The girls became frightened and ran off. But I had nowhere to go. As the hostile crowd grew more vocal, I became unsettled. Luckily, the shuttle bus soon rounded the corner and I wasted no time climbing onboard.

        Safely back on the base I told my sergeant, who informed me that what I just did was unwise, that he’d show me the proper way to find love in Samsun. The next afternoon we rode the shuttle bus to town and again and walked the dusty streets but to a specific location. It was an ancient alley lined with two-story buildings, the exits bricked with high walls. A pair of askeris [soldiers] frisked us as we entered through the military-style gate, joining a throng of Turkish men milling about looking at women, all standing provocatively in the alley’s windows. My sergeant told me that it was like a women’s prison but they were only allowed to charge $1.00 for each tryst. Such a deal, he felt.

        At the end of one alley, a brick wall served as a place for men to stand and urinate. You can imagine the place had an awful stench and the all-male crowd made me uneasy.

        Within a few minutes the sergeant had found his favorite house. We went inside where he immediately left me alone in a darkening room with several hardened Turkish prostitutes. I was petrified and it must’ve showed because they all cackled and taunted me mercilessly until I finally was forced to step outside and wait for the sergeant in the crowded alley.

        When he came out, he couldn’t believe I hadn’t indulged myself, when all it would’ve cost me was a lousy buck! I told him it wasn’t the dollar but fear that held me back. That seemed incomprehensible to him, but I’m convinced I couldn’t have managed it, even if I had tried.

        The only possible way might be to, first, imbibe in an unhealthy number of cheap, stiff drinks at the base club, then, after become desensitized to everyone and everything, call a taxi and try to find that damn place again.

        At nineteen, 454 days is a long time to remain a virgin!

    • nedfuller@comcast.net  On December 31, 2014 at 6:21 pm

      Eight dollars? Saw you coming, man.

      Now see here. In 1971-72 the price was 12 TL (at the time one US dollar) per throw.

      I was at Sinop, US Army Det 4-4, Army Security Agency. In those days, Sinop was barely more than a village on the coast of the Black Sea. Nearby, a couple hundred GIs on an extinct volcano out at the end of a wind-swept peninsula. Wild. Remote as hell. Nothing there. Nothing, least of all females. To us, places such as The ‘Bul, Adana, Izmir, etc. – which apparently seemed faraway and exotic to others – were Las Vegas.

      From Sinop, the nearest Karahani was in Samsun, a small city 188 kilometers to the east. That journey, over a rutted and mostly horrible coastal road, required four hours in the back of a courier “deuce and a half” called the mail truck. It made daily round trips. You’d hitch a ride down in the morning, feeling pretty festive, and return that night dead drunk.

      The highlight – indeed the entire purpose of the outing – was always a few hours at the “K”.

      The physical description in the post above is pretty accurate, apart from the Turkish police guard at the entrance who quickly patted us down for weapons. I never knew for sure, but since prostitution was illegal in Turkey, I figured the girls “working” there were primarily busted hookers, serving their time as best they could.

      Without question it was life in the raw, crude and rough. But as bad as it sounds (and was), to the horny and boisterous young GIs such as your humble servant was in them days, this was a welcome relief from life on “the rock” at Sinop.

      Yes, there were row-houses along both sides of the street, and by an either formal or informal arrangement, the girls in the houses were divided up by either ethnicity, region, age, personality, or what-have-you. There was no theft or violence, and although we were already pretty loaded by the time we got there, no booze was allowed. All in all, things were pretty clean.

      Mobs of Turkish men would lurk outside the doorways, stroking their pencil-thin mustaches and furtively eyeing the girls inside as if arranging surreptitious romantic liaison. Good Lord. We Americans – while we tried to be respectful – were out for fun, and we made no secret of it.

      I remember that the girls in the first house on the left (led by a bawdy gal named “Goula”) were particularly adept at breaking in the Yenis (“new guys”), and talking them out of extra money. There was also the “Gypsy house,” a “crazy house,” and “header house,” no explanations needed. Worst of all was the “beast house,” and once you’d been there you fled and never went back. Enough said.

      Apart from the normal recreational activities up and down the street, you could also take the girls out on day-long passes, to go shopping or to the movies, and we frequently did. I remember one time a group of us took several girls out a movie – where the sound was terrible and you sat on benches – to see Disney’s animated “Cinderella.” There was one girl there named “Yildiz” (“star” in English), who was actually a quiet and sweet girl, and during the movie I looked over and saw that she had started to cry.

      It was a touching moment – a moment of humanity in that rough and heartless world – and it humbled me. To this day I have never forgotten it.

  • Jason  On April 25, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    I was there in 1989 and best I can remember it cost around eight to fourteen dollars. I never participated, I stood outside holding the extra money. If they saw you had more money they would ask for more. The woman my friend frequently visited was serving time there to work off her husband’s prison sentence. She had his picture on a table beside the bed. I don’t know if serving time for her husband was true or not. I do remember hearing they were testing biweekly by doctors. It’s hard to believe that a government would run a brothel, and I wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t see it with my own eyes.

  • Pete Gotay  On May 27, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    Arrived in Izmir on Dec. 3, 1955 to help set up Det. 20. being a very young Airman at 18 years old making fair per diem, great exchange bank rates, etc.of course we lived like kings, had the best of everything. certainly like most Airmen there., we visited the Compound frequently and some like myself had regular girl friends to take care of things. With the help of the Compound, there were no sex crimes there and since Prostitution was very illegal, what else were men suppose to do. NOTE: By the way…many of the woman in the Compound were descent and fair looking .. just like the average population – i knew iwasnt there for no beauty contest.

  • Bruce  On August 23, 2012 at 9:55 am

    When I first arrived at the radar station at Diyarbakir in 1958 the 2 medics use to take people to the compound where they would wait until the medics would give them the ok. About halfway thru my tour a new base commander put the compound off limits. Several guys got in serious trouble. I know 2 guys that went to town and hired a taxi to take them to the compound in Mardin. I thought the numbers announced on the radio at NKP was a lottery of some kind.

  • Chris  On October 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    I was in the Navy from 91′-93′ and was in the Med in 92′. A friend of mine practically begged me to go so he could visit a specific woman that only pleased military and no locals. I thought he was crazy, but went. as it has been said, it was a window shopping experience. as many were old ladies, there were a few really nice looking and well built ladies. We found the famed woman, who was a blonde and had the Marines, Air Force and Navy lined up 20 at a time. From what I seen, they would bring her flowers and gifts, as the scuttlebutt was that she was very good at what she did. Very clean, as she would shower in front of you and then clean you as well. Usually each experience would last about 45 minutes. I did not indulge as well, for fear of catching something, but my friend was very satisifed, as he could not stop talking about it.

  • ed  On November 6, 2012 at 6:39 am

    A Turkish soldier got a ration of so many trips to the compound a month. Seems they earned 12 cents a month pay around 1961. On Base one got around 7 lira to the dollar. on the black market one could get 20. There were 100 krus to the lira and While I never went to the compounds I heard one could get whatever for 25 krus. Also was told you could pay a fine and buy many of the women in the compounds.

  • George Navarre  On April 4, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    I was there in 1975, as part of a NATO on Call Force. Went to the compound with a group of Navy Chiefs, and “Browsed. It was eye opening, young ladies, in bras and panties, up to old toothless women in baby doll outfits, long stringy hair, and sausage boobs hanging to their knees. Our corpsmen, a Navy 3rd class Petty officer, came down the stairs with two women, one under each arm, said he got them for $6.00 american. If I remember right, there was a gift shop near the front gate where you could buy toiletries for the ladies inside. Story was this women were working off prison sentences for their husbands, and american women think they have it rough.

  • Pete Gotay  On January 13, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    the cost of a quickie in the compound in Izmir Turkey was the equiv. of .50 cents the time I was stationed there, from Dec. 3 ’55 till Dec. 2, ’57 = the Turkish eschange was approx. 10 liras to 1 dollar. NOTE; Just to be fair, In my opinion..the compound served a great purpose, since there were no prostitutes in town available, the woman were average looking.l and like most fellow Airman we used them a lot……Ofcourse these woman were not participants of Miss America contest. Do you think American woman in jail are prettier. I was stationed there for 2 whole years and I lived with a woman for at least over a year and a half (A belly Dancer). Of the little over 100 men assigned to Det. 20. I dare say a great many of them got married there, including my NCOIC the Acct. NCOIC.

  • James MacAvoy  On March 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    I was stationed aboard the American destroyer, USS Barry dd933, when I visited the Compound in May of 1970. For a young man of 20 from the mountains of North Carolina it was for sure an eye opener!

  • BOB J  On March 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm

    I was in the 2MOB (mobile communications group, stationed at Moron de la Frontera, outside of Seville Spain) in the 60’s. Our radio and teletype operators and mechanics went to a base near ADANA, in southern Turkey, once a year for NATO exercises (war games) for 30 days. I went there once. When we went to a new location we were briefed, in advance, to only go off base on the BUDDY system. at least 2 GI’s. Prior to going to ADANA, we were briefed to go in groups of at least 5. Hearing the legends (some of which are TRUE) that the women in the compounds were there doing time for a male relative’s crime. Before reading this column and its extra posts, I thought (hoped) that ADANA was the ONLY Turkish city to have a compound. Another recollection from that TDY was getting a hand-made pair of mocasin boots for a carton of cigarettes, then worth $2.50. Per above posts, I’m saddened to know that the COMPOUNDS still exist. So much for the “new” government.

  • Bob  On August 4, 2014 at 2:26 am

    I was stationed at Incirlik AB, in Adana, in 1986 and I visited the Kerhane on a regular basis. I was addicted to them, in fact, I went to Istanbul just to visit the Kerhane there. I loved it.

    • J c  On March 13, 2017 at 7:12 am

      1979-80. Incirlik AB. Regular to Kerhane. Traveled to other areas on buses and motorcycles. Smaller the town the smaller and limited was selection at Compound. $5.00 was sufficient.

  • Robert  On August 18, 2014 at 12:30 am

    Visited the Compound multiple times during my stay there from Mar. 56 to Feb. 58 and always got my moneys worth. Got used to Turkish woman shaving their snatch but it was ok., how much can you expect for less than 50 a shot. I was an A/1c (19 Yrs. old) in Det. 20, visited the Numune, Cibels, Londra bar. etc I loved it there and got paid good money to party with.

  • sperry 17 daisy@gmail.net  On August 20, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    steve p i was at karamurssel det 63 1969 to 1970. the compound in bursa was just as you discribed. first time for this youngster! as i am writing this midnite express the movie is on the tube

  • Elmo Bumpy  On October 13, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    We used to go TDY to Turkey from RAF Lakenheath in the UK. Used to go into Izmir and to the Compound on Friday nights. Price in 1968/69 was $2 a pop . . . Met two US chicks there doing time for drugs. We used to give them money and smokes (they loved Salems) but would not have sex with them. Just trying to help them out. Plenty others to choose from for sex . ..

  • Bob Roberts  On November 11, 2014 at 1:40 am

    In the late 1970s I was TDY to Incirlik. I was offered an opportunity to see a few of the local sights – Castle by the Sea and some place I think that was called Heaven and Hell or something – the reason I don’t know/remember is because, after we went to Castle by the Sea there was a vote taken about whether we would go to the second promised destination or, INSTEAD, go to THE COMPOUND. It was explained it was exactly as you say it was: A Turkish Women’s Prison where the women who wished to do so could work off part of their sentence by prostituting themselves. I was pretty upset – I had issues with prostitution in general and the fact several who voted to go there, and who went in while a few of us stayed on the bus – angry we had not been taken where we were promised we would be going – were married made it all the worse to those of us who valued marriage.

    We were told that the way Turkish Justice works is this: A man commits a crime. If he is thrown in jail he becomes a ward of the state as do his wife and family, so the man has the option of putting his wife in jail and then, sometimes, the wife winds up in the compound to get out early. Not sure of all the details but that’s what I was told way back when.

    • Wayne  On March 27, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      That was exactly how it was explained to us by the local Turks. The man is the sole breadwinner, or Ecmac winner lol, and his wife would literally work off his time on her back. Based how much money she brought in, would lessen her time

  • Dude  On January 3, 2015 at 1:23 am

    Cigli AFB, Izmir, Turkey, 1969-1970. I was one of the last to leave Cigli as I was assigned to help close the base, well the USAF part. Visited the Compound. Didn’t really care for it. Met some nice people there, made a few friends and visited many of the ancient ruins like Ephesus, Sardis, etc, but overall I was bored out of my mind. On the positive side, it kept me out of Vietnam.

    • Gypsy Lord  On June 22, 2015 at 7:03 pm

      I have sat just above Cigli many nights watching the turkeys practice landing their homemade F-16s. I have seen the Karahani in Izmir in 1997. Dreadful place for the ladies but I think there is some relation to getting their family out of legal trouble and or they are criminals too. Wow, Izmir nights lots of good times being drunk and disorderly. Echo Pub was always a wonderful evening. La Sera? Good food and lots of booze, Efes! Good times I must have aged 5 years in 18 months. Liked it so much much I got adopted there. Well, take a shit in the day room Abi’s!!!!

    • Anonymous  On October 11, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      I was at cigli during that same period to help close the base and turn it over to the turks

      • Brenda Gaston  On April 9, 2016 at 6:03 pm

        My dad was closing it too. We were one of the last families to leave.

    • Brenda Gaston  On April 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm

      Did you know Senior Master Sgt. Herald Nelson? We were one of the last families to leave Cigli because my dad was closing down the base.

  • Anonymous  On December 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    Cool…i was there in the late 80s
    Saw it too…i was at the Lick

  • retiredpco  On December 10, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    Was stationed in Izmir 56 and 57 with the Army, worked in the basement at the NATO building and I visited the compound several times can’t remember what it cost but Lira was 13 to 1 in American money. You could always tell when the Navy was in town, after they left a lot of Turks were wearing Navy hats and uniforms, you could not get in the compound in uniform so they would hold your uniform and rent you clothes, only thing is when the sailor went inside, the Turk took off with his clothes.. Good memories..

  • Wayne  On March 27, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    I was stationed at Princlik ASN, just outside of Diyarbakir. The Karahani there was like what has been d escribed already. At the base of of small hill on the other side of “The Wall”. Most of the streets in Diyarbakir are cobblestones, so there were a few sprained ankles after drinking Efes, then stumbling down the road. When you walked up to the gate the guards would pat you down then you would enter. There were several bungalow style buildings with 4-8 women in each large room. They would be sitting there watching TV or whatever. Each had large glass windows you could see into a living room area. You literally would window shop. If you saw something you liked you would strike up a conversation and then make the deal, go in the back, pay your money, and do the deed. The girls at Diyarbakir were not terribly attractive the couple times I took the “New Arrivals” to check it out. We had an IDMT at the radar site who we affectionatly called the Karahani Kommando, because he frequented the location often. Maybe because he had access to the antibiotics, he didn’t worry about getting anything. LOL. I heard the best looking women were sent to Ankara, Capitol city, so any dignitaries that came to the country would have the best to choose from. Good times. I had a great year there in the mid 80’s

  • Bob Hovish  On May 22, 2016 at 9:10 am

    I visited the Compound in 1972 while visiting Izmir as a U. S. sailor.I was 18 years old and very adventurous to say the least. From my memory, I remember a street lined up with little rooms where the ladies displayed themselves, and a room behind it to take care of business. Every age was there, waiting for a customer, most not the most beautiful. There was no set price, you paid what you wanted. After a month at sea, It wasn’t too difficult to find a suitable “lady”. I did it more for the sake of saying I got laid in a woman’s prison in Turkey, than anything. It’s been over 40 years now, and I look back and smile at the experience. How many people can say they got laid at a woman’s prison in Turkey?

  • Anonymous  On May 27, 2016 at 5:38 am

    I had the exact same experience in 1971 in Erzerum while on extended duty attached to the army…

  • anonymous  On June 30, 2016 at 6:48 am

    Wow, old long forgotten memories. I had even forgotten the name of it but yes, it certainly did (?) exist and it pretty much the way described in the previous posts. I stood Shore Patrol there. Naval ships, at least ours, posted 2 SP’s at the gate along with 2 Turkish soldiers to prevent American servicemen in uniform from entering. Yes, the Turks guards mostly kept out kids. I did hear a few stories that were pretty awful and one from the SP officer on duty one day. I will not repeat it but it had to do with a girl prisoner. As one of the other posts said, I was still pretty young with visions of virtue and this was horrendous. I don’t know if it exists today or not. I write this off to being part of growing up. Sad really.

    anonymous

  • Augustine Delosier  On July 4, 2016 at 8:29 am

    thanks!

  • Scotch n Holy Water  On July 24, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    always a fun day in Izmir 96-98. you couldnt swing a dead cat without hitting a doner kebab stand or a beer joint. Karahane was not necessary but did partake in window shopping. Got ran out of a Turkish Belly Dance club for not paying 800$ drink bill (youve been warned of the scam). Chased turk poontang all over the streets of that city. Turkish girls are easy anyway. Ya’ll have fun now.

    • denjrthebest  On July 24, 2016 at 4:36 pm

      Things must have changed since 56-57, loved those belly dancers, we dated a couple,, good all nighters,, money wise it was 13 to 1, in our favor,, lots of good times, and no worries about getting taken over,,

  • Dan  On August 7, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    I was in the US Navy in the late 80s and we had went to Istanbul. I remember going to a debtors prison in that city. The description is almost identical to one of the first posts on this page. There was a guarded gate leading to an alley which I thought was a few blocks long. When first entering, there were girls in the windows and men outside barking like at a carnival trying to get men to partake in what they were offering inside. The first block appeared to be young girls and attractive girls, although none looked happy to be there. And the further you went down the alley/street the older and less attractive the women became. I remember coming to the end of the alley and there was nothing but old/elderly woman sitting outside smoking and talking amongst themselves. I found the place and situation to be filthy and sad. And I don’t believe that any of those women had a choice whether to be there or not. I remember seeing one girl getting carried out of one of the buildings unconscious from what I don’t know. Anyway I’ve tried to find the name of this prison and to see whether it still exists. Is there anyone else out there that remembers that prison in Istanbul? And does anyone know the name of it?

  • hank  On August 10, 2016 at 12:12 am

    Oh Lord. 68/72 Army ASA Izmir 69/71 I would out at Disco Hit and at the Embassy in town. I had a few Turkish friends and they told me that if women cheated on their husband that is where they ended up. If they whore that is where they ended up. It seemed to be cheating the main reason. Now you only had to have your brother or good friend say, “I had sex with his wife to judge” She was gone. The middle east is not kind depending on the husband to women! I was one of the lucky guys, I was married. I went there when I heard about it to walk the street and check it out. My buddy from the mid-west wanted me to see his girl there. She was so young she had no hair on her body. Any girl born there stayed there for life. Any boy child born there went to an orphanage! I found that out from the Turks. I enjoyed Izmir, had a VW bug I bought from my Capt. when he shipped out. They could not get anyone to replace me I stayed 2 tours there. I did some TDY. Living off base was good. I had 2 apartments and we made it though a big earthquake. I still have photos that I never developed, movies also. Most they say I can not get done because of the chemicals are not made any longer. I saw an old Turkish Veteran beat to death in the street for not moving fast enough. He had no legs. We were there when the Country was under Marshall Law. Machine Guns on entrance to any city. Oscars all over the place. It was nice to find this tread! 🙂 I enjoyed reading post and the replies..

  • Doc Groovy  On September 8, 2016 at 12:58 am

    I was a medic attached to TUSLOG DET 119 out of Cigli Airbase in Izmir from April of ’66 to November of ’67. I spent a fair amount time in “the Compound’ with my friends. the price at that time was $2 for GI’s. There were a lot of very attractive girls there but you had to know where to look and be patient. the compound in Izmir was much larger than is being described here. I remember it being a walled in area consisting of 4 city blocks (4-5 buildings per side of the street). The women’s prison story I never bought into but it was rumored, But there was never any real need to go to the compound very often because I was working at the USAF hospital downtown and we were quartered in a large apartment building on Chumheryat (sp?) BLVD and every month for about 10 days after payday girls would be knocking on our doors 2-3 times a day for the same $2. most were fairly average but some were exceptional. The most memorable was early one evening when I answered the door to find a fat lady standing there with 2 absolutely gorgeous young ladies that she said were her daughters, I could never judge age in Turkish women as they seemed to me to age rather quickly and while it didn’t phase me at the time, as i look back I realise they were probably 14 or 15 yrs old but hell I was 18 did most of my thinking with the little head. It was spectacular I ended up spending $15 and barely dodged an article 15 for being 3 hrs late for the night shift.

  • Wallace Hood  On November 19, 2016 at 7:47 am

    Went there often, had the best time of my life, also enjoyed the people.

  • Jacqueline Pellay  On February 21, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    My mother was the first woman to be able to visit inside the Compound in Ankara. Her name is Susan Pellay and this took place in 1973. My father and her were stationed at Balgot (sp). It made the front page of the newspapers and it became a monumental triumph since no women were allowed to visit. My mother fought for her right to see what went on behind those walls and she did it. She’s an incredible woman.

  • Anonymous  On January 9, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    Louis I was in the Navy in 70, we went to Izmir had heard from guys about the compounds, 5 of us rented a horse & buggy to go there, I was the driver I still have a picture of me on the buggy at the compound. I was a virgin & was pretty relectant to possibility of catching a disease, therefore I didn’t indulge. Especially after walking around & seeing the poor conditions of living for these women, plus they were all pretty nasty looking. The guys that did all said $2 got them what they wanted. Yes the women had to pay there fine off by prostitution. These places were run by the Government, *************************

  • Michael Conroy  On January 12, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    Thoroughly enjoyed the compound in Bursa and headed over there after a delicious plate of ekmek and donerkebab with yogurt sauce Was stationed at KAS from Jul 73 to Jan 75 and we would take the bus from Karamursel to Bursa. Those were the days

    • Air Force kid  On December 2, 2018 at 3:30 pm

      Michael, where was KAS? I was at KCDI, went to Izmir and the seven cities of Ephasus. Enjoyed Bursa and going to Mt Uladag (sp) You came in after I left, left June of 73.

  • Eli Rivera  On April 29, 2018 at 9:01 am

    I guess I went to the compound nearest Incirlik Air Base. Maybe Adana. I was a looky lou kid. I didn’t have the nerve to sleep with whores or ugly ,chubby women.Plus I was gay so not even a twitch below the belt. I just thought it was quite lurid and surreal if not horribly sad that this was a government condoned activity and facility. Reminded me of Midnight Express.

  • Guy Larson  On June 30, 2018 at 7:55 am

    My name is Guy Larson. I was in Izmir from 1973 – 1975. Worked at Nato, Landsoutheast HQ, Disco Hit, the Receiver Site and Transmitter Site.
    I was Army attached to the Air Force.
    Probably because I was young, the Izmir Compound was very interesting to me.
    I went there alone. Everytime I went with someone we got in trouble.
    Yes, it was erie. That’s probably why I liked it. Memories I will never forget.
    When the plane landed in Izmir it was like entering a parallel world or being born
    again. Learned the language pretty quick. I loved it.

  • Anonymous  On September 24, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    65 thru 67 for me at Cigli.. Supply work on the base.
    Myself and some pals (5) used to take the blue-bird bus from base and head downtown.
    Shawn Pavyon was our favorite.
    Couldn’t get enough of the downtown and the bars.
    Compound too.
    Ended up waiting for the bus home ar Charlie and MIkes Shish Kabob stand outside the NCO club downtown.
    For a quarter you got wonderful food to eat on the bus.
    By the way,we usually caught the 4am bus back to Cigli.
    How in Gods name did we do this 3 or 4 nights a week?
    Always broke.
    Loved it.
    A3C Edward Przybysiski

  • Robert  On June 14, 2019 at 9:42 pm

    Wow so funny to finally find this; I had begun to think I had just imagined my faded memories of close to 40 years ago now…..

    I was stationed at Det 70 (Corlu) in 1980/1981
    2 man shift; on for 24 hours then off for 24 hours,
    We worked it out where we would sneak in a 6 hour nap also.
    So when the shift was over we would walk down to the road and take the bus to Istanbul, $1 was the bus fare. Took around an hour from my memory, Then a short walk and through the gates and I was in heaven. My count was over a hundred women, I was told it was a debtors prison, Parents would trade their Daughters to pay their over due taxes’ etc. There was even a special “house” where the girls were underage.

    I wish I could find some photos of that place, It was filthy and nasty but many of the women were young and fine as hell, Condoms were nonexistent but I could only find one woman who would performed oral sex. This woman ruined me for life; total passionate true girlfriend sex! I remember seeing her 3 times in one day once lol!

    Maybe somethings wrong with me but I don’t feel bad about those experiences; I just wished I could remember more of them!

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